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"Is it hopelessly naive to assume that the vehicle might "burn up" in
the atmosphere upon re-entry after a failed launch? Is there some principle
which would prevent the Plutonium from "burning up" or vaporizing somehow in
the same fashion? Under those circumstances would the 72 pounds of Plutonium
constitute "small quantities" and would it be contained necessarily at a
recognizable "accident site" so that it could be "cleaned up" by the guys in
those special suits and resperators? ... Sorry, Per, but the chances of your
being a bourgeois government's dupe might be substantial. The nuclear
"industry" has a demonstrable history of willingness to take chances with our
lives and health." Classified as mission opponent. Central concern:
risk.
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#714: |
(NASA employee, in response to claims that NASA is not making all
pertinent information available), "As stated in the NASA Notice of
Availability (Federal Register Notice 97-040, 4/9/97) and the EPA Notice of
Availability (Federal Register 970130, 4/11/97), copies of the Draft
Supplemental Environmental Impact Statement for the Cassini Mission are
available, on a first request basis, by contacting Mark Dahl at NASA
Headquarters, Code SD, Washington, DC 20546-0001, 202-358-1544. Comments on
the DSEIS must be submitted in writing and received by NASA no later than May
27, 1997. The NASA and EPA Notices may be obtained on line from the Government
Printing Office at http://www.access.gpo.gov/su_docs/aces/aces140.html Search
on Notices and "Cassini" (without quotes) to obtain Federal Register Notices
relating to the Cassini Mission. Notices are down-loadable in text and .pdf
formats." Classified as mission proponent. Central concern:
Technical questions/answers.
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#623: |
"Members of a group I belong to oppose the Cassini project because they
believe fallout from the plutomium, if the vehicle crashed, would be
devastating. I doubt their information sources, but I can't argue them without
"reliable" information of my own. Can anyone help me?" Classified as
mission proponent. Central concern: Asking/providing basic
information.
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#385: |
"RTGs are somewhat more stable then asteroids -- for instance, the Apollo 13
LM was carrying an RTG when it re-entered the atmosphere. The RTG *did not*
rupture, and is currently sitting safely at the bottom of the Marianas
Trench. Those things are designed to take it -- ask the engineers, but I am
reasonably sure that the RTG would survive any conceivable re-entry scenario.
As for your hypothetical explosion, Cassini would be a million times more
likely to completely miss the earth and go flying off on some trajectory that
came no-where near the earth." Classified as mission proponent.
Central concern: Past nuke/RTG failures didn't kill life on Earth.
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#685: |
(Forwarded message) "This is a message regarding your future. It is intended
to reach as many internet users as possible as fast as possible. It is meant
to bypass the mainstream media which have not cared to inform us of this
extremely dangerous situation. Thank you for taking the time to read the
following and forwarding it to friends, listservs, newsgroups, should you
judge it necessary." Followed by excerpt from the article "Risking the World"
by Karl Grossman. Classified as mission opponent. Central concern:
Passing on others' messages.
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#347: |
"Wow. I just downloaded twelve new posts from seven different authors, all on
topic, and my spam and Dan filters didn't have to sift out anything. Nothing
in them about the Cassini earth flyby or sales pitches for offshore
investments. And my newserver doesn't even pick up all posts in its feed. I
haven't seen this much on topic activity in a long time." This is the sole
message on Cassini posted by this author. Classified as mission
neutral. Central concern: Annoyance with off-topic
discussion.
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#104: |
(In response to "There are safer technologies that could have been and should
be used.") "Which ones? Last time I checked, there were no alternative
technologies currently available which would have done the job. Also, I might
point out that ALL technologies, including solar, have their risks and
environmental effects, whether radiation, toxic processing chemicals, or
simply heavy water usage. Personally, if Cassini reentered during the flybyt,
I'd be more worried about it landing on my house than about the RTG breaking
open." Classified as mission proponent. Central concern: Risk
overstated, disproportionate.
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#353: |
(In response to one of the NASA employees' posts, "I read your Cassini update
and was relieved to see that the probe had Trajectory Correction capability.
I am very concerned about the risks of the schedules Earth flyby (see
http://www.nonviolence.org/noflyby). Could you please enlighten me in this
regard?" This person was at first difficult to classify on the basis of
this message. I then searched to find other postings by the same author. In
September 1997 this author posted directions to an anti-Cassini rally. The
same person posted a call to international action to stop Cassini in June
1996. Classified, then, as mission opponent. Central concern:
Risk.
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#476: |
"I hesitate to post anything with "Cassini" in the title, due to the large
volume of noise, but here goes. ... Is there/will there be such a page
detailing the positions of the planets involved in Cassini's trajectory?
Those would be Venus, Earth, Jupiter and Saturn, IIRC. (I sent mail asking
this question to the mailto: on the Cassini web page, and got an automated
response.)" This is the sole message on Cassini posted by this author.
Classified as mission neutral. Central concern: Asking/providing
basic information.
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#033: |
(In response to discussion of Cassini's budget restrictions) "The dust
instrument on Cassini will be turned on in a little less than a month from
now. Other Cassini instruments will be turned on at around the Venus flyby
(June). I don't know details about the when the camera will be turned on, only
that there is definitely pre-Saturn science happening by Cassini." This
message was ambiguous, so I did a search on the author and found numerous
messages by what turned out to be a graduate student working on dust science
who was looking forward to Cassini data, who had also posted many sarcastic
comments about the opponents, such as: "To celebrate the successful launch
of Cassini, and my hopes of some Cassini data someday to play with, my
Halloween costume this year is a Cassini RTG unit. (You know, one of those
plutonium thingys.)" Classified as mission proponent. Central
concern: Cass budget doesn't allow for cruise science.
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